September 15, 2014
Assignments for Next Week
Handouts for this Week
Lesson for This Week
Examining The Scene, Trusting The Audience
we will be discussing the issue of "where to cut" from two points
of view -- when not to cut, and when you've gone too far and should cut.
Last time we discussed the question of "Where to cut" from the point
of view of the actual edit. This week we are going to broaden the discussion
and bring it to the scene level. In other words, how do you know when
the audience has gotten your point? How and when can you trust the audience?
At the begining of the semester I told you that I rarely will show a film
which I did not like, but that I would do it twice this semester. In tonight's
case I believe that there is something to be learned from an analysis of a
scene from MEET
JOE BLACK even though I think that it is terribly edited. We will examine
the scene from the audience's point of view. When is too much, sometimes
too much? How can we learn when to cut? The
script for this scene is online
here. Take a look at it.
We will also discuss some of the lessons you've learned from your first weeks
editing on the Avid. What was the process you went through to analyze the film
with your partner? How did you go about making your scene annalyses? How did
you decide where to make your edits?
What I'll be asking you tonight, as every week, is the following:
- What was your analysis?
- Where are the beats?
- How did you work those beats?
Finally, depending on how much time we have, we will be looking at how editor Jim Stewart, along with the director and showrunners, put together the scene from the "Branded" episode of LAW & ORDER:SVU that aired back on October 19, 2010.
Of course, unlike our editing exeercise, this scene had over eighteen minutes of show time before it, so some of the requirements were different than ours. There is also the reality that the character of Detective Elliot Stabler -- played by Chris Meloni -- is one of the leads of the series, unlike the other three characters in the scene, shown here. That slants the scene analysis that has to be performed before editing the scene.
The following handouts will be given out this week. Click on the blue highlighted
terms to get to the actual handouts
- Script for the scene from
- This is the scene that you will be editing this week. Note that this includes the script supervisor's notes as well as the lined script.
- Online tutorials on multicam editing in Avid
- There are a few places to learn about multicam editing that will not be covered in this week's class with Reine-Claire. One is in the movie "Migrating From Final Cut Pro 7 to Media Composer 5.5" from lynda.com. Another one is on the Creative Cow called "Multicam Editing in Avid's Media Composer" which concentrates on creating multicam clips as well as editing from them. A shorter tutorial on those topics is on geniusDV.
Assignments for Next Week
- Re-edit your scene from GLADIATOR
- I've given each of your some notes. You should discuss them together (remember, you are in equal editing partnerships for this exercise).
- Edit the scene from BURN NOTICE
- You will notice that these are multi-cam takes
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- Robert Towne on "Shoe Leather"
- A quote from an old interview with Towne, the writer and director. Pay
particular attention to his comment on shoe leather.
- How Steve Semel Sees The Editing
Process (PDF File)
- Steve, an accomplished editor himself, sees editing as a continual
process of creation and recreation. Look at the lines that I've
highlighted in yellow. Also, he gives a technique that he uses
to gauge his time. I've added my two cents into the process in
- Joe Hutshing Interview
about MEET JOE BLACK (PDF File)
- Hutshing, one of the editors on MEET JOE BLACK, talks about the
process of editing the film. He touches, briefly (and with great
and necessary political savvy) the reason why the film was so long
- Dylan Tichenor/MAGNOLIA
Interview (PDF File)
- Each week, until the sixth or seventh week in the class, we will
be getting excerpts from interviews about how editors think about
the material they edit and how things changed in the film during
the editing. Tonight's handout is from Dylan Tichenor, the editor
of 1999's MAGNOLIA. Now, you may gather from my discussions in
class, that I feel that MAGNOLIA, despite it positive aspects,
is an example of a film in which the director occasionally didn't
pay attention to the material that was sitting in front of him
(check out the final scene in the film), but this doesn't change
Top 100 Films Of All Time
- The AFI polled... somebody... and came up with a list of the
100 greatest movies of all time. Okay, CITIZEN KANE does belong
on it. Maybe even at the top. Check out the list and see if there
are films you haven't seen that you'd like to see. The list has
links to descriptions of the films. The last time I was on the
site those links were broken. If you want to just see the list,
I've got it on my site under AFI's Top 100 List. This link leads
to a page with all of AFI's Top 100 lists. The listing for the
PDF of the Top 100 Films is here.
- How To Get Employers
To Read Your Resume
- Though this article is written from a non-film perspective it
offers some valuable guidance on how to get a job. It discusses
how to get employers to read your resume and make it a rewarding
experience for them. Getting in the door is often a question of
who you know, and that's true in any business. But there are other
learnable skills, as well. Here are some tips.
- Subtitled "Cinema in the digital age" this is a growing site
which is devoted to Digital Cinema. There is a great page
of links to sites which show digital films, rent digital films, talk
about digital films, and help with digital films.
Though I've tried to accomodate other browsers
THIS SITE IS DESIGNED FOR BEST USE WITH IE for the PC,
SAFARI for the Mac, and FIREFOX for both the PC and the Mac. It also looks
reasonably good on the iPhone. Lucked out on that!
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